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 Today, Moms and Guns answers questions about handgun selection for women and when is it okay to ‘pull your gun out in public’?

The first question of the day is:


 Shelley asks…

What is a good 1st time hand gun for a woman?

I am enrolled to attend a concealed carry class and just learned I need to own and be familiar with my gun before the class… I have a size large women‘s hand.

Moms & Guns responds:

That’s really sad because we provide the gun and ammo for our ladies’ classes and ask that they don’t purchase a gun prior to class because we’re going to help them in the selection process.  If you live in the state of Missouri, look us up to take a class from us.  If you don’t you might like to purchase this handy magazine that illustrates how to fit a gun to your hand properly so you don’t make any mistakes and waste a lot of money in the process.  The lady, Susan Rexrode, who wrote the magazine has a lot of experience in this area and it will be well worth it to you to spend the $10 for this magazine edition and find out some basic vital information you won’t get from an online dealer or a retail store clerk.


John asks…

How much does a license to carry a concealed weapon cost?


I am a woman living in Baker, West Virginia, and I was wondering how much a class cost for a license to carry a concealed weapon in the state of West Virginia.

Moms & Guns explains:

Depending on what state you’re in, $100 dollars for the license in Missouri. The class cost depends on who gives the class. Our class is $100, 10% going to the A21 Campaign to save children from human trafficking, plus our classes are geared more toward women and her special carry needs, although we’ll take guys attending with their wives.

For the state of Virginia, you might look here

 Davina asks…

looking for a compact conceal carry handgun?

I don’t really like the gun I carry now and want something compact, but still accurate and reliable? Any suggestions?

Moms & Guns extrapolates:

So, I’m going to extrapolate a bit here …

You carry today, so you probably are a shooter, and hopefully one with some experience. I’m going to focus on semi – autos, as the dimensions of snubby revolvers are largely the same model to model, so that’s mostly about finding one you like the grip for. (5 shot, 38 special or .357 snubnose width is limited by the cylinder. Lengths are all 1 3/4″ – 2 3/4″ barrels.)

Lets assume for a moment you are going to stay with the conventional defensive calibers – .380, 9, 40, 45. There are now a plethora of options. However, I’m going to extrapolate a bit further – based on the name Hilary and your avatar I am going to assume you are a woman, and probably smaller than a typical guy with the comment about wanting something compact.

Based on that, typically, the issue with something compact usually has to do with guns that are thin more than they are short. Essentially, there are short guns that are double stack and somewhat fat – like a Paraordinance WartHog in .45. On a big person that may not matter that much, but for a slimmer person that can be harder to conceal.

So, lets keep going along the line of conventional caliber, and slim – generally meaning single stack. Ok, from there you’ve got some options more or less separated by price:

1) Low price single stack guns – Kel-Tec PM-9 (I think that’s right), the Ruger LCR and the Taurus 700 series (I think) are all in the sub $400 range. I’ve tried about all of these. For the most part my opinion on them is about the same. They fire, they are acceptably accurate at close range, they can be dropped in a pocket and are no fun to shoot at all. These are all DAO as well, with rudimentary sights so they are specifically designed as last ditch, instinctive point and shoot sort of gun.

2) Mid price single stack guns – Bersa .380, Walther PPK/S, Walther PPS, Walther PK380, Kahr P and K, MP and MK series, and the SIG 238. (Sig has a couple of other small guns they’ve recently come out with – the Compact 220 as an example, but I haven’t shot those) Now we are running from about right around $400 up to right around a $1000 at the high end. Personally, if you are right handed I was particularly impressed with the Bersa .380.  If you are comfortable with handling a Walther P22, the PK380 feels pretty natural – however, if you DON’T shoot a P22, it has some wierd quirks you have to get used to. I really like how the PPS feels, and it’s on my short list of guns to get. I’ve fired a few rounds out of the P238 – the SIG version of the old Colt Mustang and it’s a really nice shooting little gun. My only two gripes are – for my hands it is hard to get a controllable grip. It’s new enough and tight enough that I would want to see some longer term performance out of them to be comfortable they are going to function when they are dirty, dusty or faced with whatever collects in a holster over time. I have no evidence that they won’t Sig is an excellent name in the firearms business and I have a 226 so the bias here is against the newness not the company. The Kahr guns – particularly the K series are the class of the group and you pay for it to. A K9 is listing for over $1000 on their website now, but they are flat, smooth, accurate, reliable and absolutely proven. These are in this class because retail and used markets you can still find them under $1000 and the P series (polymer frame) are in the $700 range.  Prices vary depending on whether you’re looking online or at the retail stores.  You might also like to shoot the new Glock 42 that just came out at the Shot Show 2014, priced just under $500, but will probably come down as time rolls along.

3) High priced single stack – Essentially this group is dominated by 1911 variants. The Springfield EMP was the highlight gun in this class and it is carrying a $1,200 price tag last I saw. It’s a beautiful gun, shoots great and is nicely concealable. Running speed shooting drills with the EMP, it is just as quick as a full size .45 and for me groups fine out to the 25 yard distance. Seeing the popularity Kimber, ParaOrdinance and Sig all have equivalent 1911’s out there now and having shot the Kimber I find it highly equivalent with mostly small feel differences being the difference. I really like the Kimber and Springfield 1911’s so, I’m pretty comfortable with both companies.

Now, note that for the sake of not just creating a catalog list, I’ve eliminated double stack guns and “compact” vs. “sub compact” guns. EVERYBODY’s got a “compact” double stack something or another out there. Most companies have an entire line. If my assumptions about you are wrong, you can adjust accordingly.

Good Luck,


Graham asks…

If you carry a concealed weapon, when is it legal to take it out in public?

I mean of course in dangerous situations. Example: If you’re a lone woman, can you pull a gun on a guy if he turns and walks up to you menacingly? I mean of course just to warn that person off, not shoot them. Pull it out and be like “Freeze punk!”

Moms & Guns answers:

You can “take it out in public” or draw your handgun only when you are in fear for your life or the life of another. Now, as for what can cause you to be in fear of your life is hard to define. Generally you must be in eminent danger of severe bodily harm or death.. If you “pull it out” you darn well better be prepared to use it, not just as a prop to scare someone off. Warnings shots are NOT legal in some states and they’re not wise as a bottom line. If you can’t kill another person who is posing a danger to you, don’t give him a weapon to shoot you with. When you carry a concealed weapon you have to be as concerned with protecting your weapon as you are with defending yourself. To obtain a concealed weapons license you have to be 21, have a complete criminal and medical background check and have nothing greater than a class C misdemeanor in the past five years, complete training on the law’s affecting concealed carry and where you can and can not legally carry, complete marksmanship qualification and have your fingerprints and photograph on file with the state. Not an easy or cheap process, so those who carry generally have given considerable thought before they decide to become armed citizens.

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